Not Ron (Duh.)

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Meeting Of The Minds??

I asked Ron to meet me for the first time last week, and he was kind enough to do so. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe I’m the only one in this or writing about this, who has actually met with Ron.

I spent a long time talking to Ron. I looked him dead in the eye and asked him multiple rapid fire questions, which he answered with no hesitation whatsoever.

I am now 100% certain that Ron had nothing to do with the SWAT’s or any other part of all the bullshit he’s being accused of by certain people who are pulling “facts” out of their ass.

Pat Frey owes Ron a huge apology for Patterico’s irresponsible post that indicated that Ron was in league with Neal and/or Brett. Patrick Frey also owes Ron an apology for Pat’s wild accusations [read: slander] that Ron committed a crime. If Ron was even suspected of a crime, you can bet your bottom dollar that at least one of the at least three detectives working on the SWATs would have at least contacted Ron by now – it’s been what – 6 months?? Obviously, there is no evidence – Pat made that up. After 6 months, you can be sure that at least a shred of evidence would have come out after all this time, had Pat been telling the truth. His claims make as much sense as saying that Adrian Chen did the SWATs. Or Markos. Or freakin Katie Couric.

And the rest of Ron’s accusers need to learn to forget about “Trust”, as when it comes to Patrick Frey, it seems that “Verify” is the critical part.

And if Pat thinks I got anything wrong here, he is welcome to comment/respond here for himself. He is not welcome to send a troll (or a more polished writer) to do his bidding.

When I asked Ron if I could post about this, he said it was ok, but not to bother “defend”-ing him. I take issue with that characterization. People on both “sides” of this thing have accused me of “defending” others. These folks seem to forget: I do not have a dog in this fight; I have not defended anyone. Rather, I am relaying what I have learned, what I have observed, and, in light of that, pointing out the difference between what is nonsensical and what is common sense.

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The Trouble With Tweeters

I’ll apologize in advance for the ramshackle slapdashiness of this post [read: rant.]

In the back pages of this blog, you will find me making fun of Sarah Palin. Or maybe it was some other blog – who remembers. But I stopped. And I don’t make fun of Bachmann either. Why – because we’ve never seen so many male Republicans so easy to make fun of in modern times, and yet the ladies get the brunt of the disparaging comments. And don’t even try to tell me I’m imagining things; even very liberal women have noticed this “phenomenon”.

Yes, this is a Weinergate post; getting there.

In the early days of Weinergate, a gal tweeted a Weiner joke. Let’s call her Ms. Q. It wasn’t a pro-Weiner joke, but it definitely wasn’t an anti-Weiner joke. Within about a split second two trolls sent tweets to Ms. Q saying she was a moron, idiot, something of that nature, for supporting @RepWeiner. Ms. Q said a couple of especially snarky things back (imagine). One troll responded with a triple-X rated obscenity, and then yet another troll started to tweet nasty stuff at Ms. Q. So Ms. Q blocked the trolls and then took a look-see around twitter. Well she found a LOT of trolls attacking a LOT of tweeters. And, as per usual on twitter, the most menacing and obscene seemed to be reserved for women. Well, if you were going to have an organized attack on twitter, this was exactly what one would look like.

Of course Ms. Q continued to talk and joke about @RepWeiner despite the trolls. But Ms. Q thought that maybe someone younger, or not as used to the internet, might be wary of saying anything else Weiner-related for fear of trolls crushing their mood. The troll campaign wouldn’t be effective against everybody, but it could probably be quite effective against many, if not most tweeters. It looked like a pretty good way to have an impact on controlling (does the word “troll” come from this?) the message. Ms. Q wondered: Who organized this campaign?

Anyways,  a recent “forward of a forward”, if you will, got me thinking about the aforementioned stuff. The forwarded info described below, may shed a bit more light on the second sentence of this comment.

It seems that Ms. A and Ms. B were blithely tweeting along, and they both started to follow a silly hashtag. So, for that crime, some guy started to tweet annoying stuff at Mss. A and B. Ms. A is not really one to sit there and take it; she usually has something to say in return (imagine.) And after Ms. A defended herself, this lovely tweet appeared:

@MrPapaya Dennis:

Feel free to harass totally idiotic [@Ms. A]…

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Sweet, huh?

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Dozens of trolls attacked Ms. A and as she blocked them, more accounts were created. 322 tweets in all. Ms A noticed that some of the trolls were joking with some beandogs about it, and late into it, Ms. A tweeted about that.

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If you disagree that it went down like this, you can always just go look at Ms. A’s timeline and search her handle on twitter to see the full exchanges. Since I think everyone reading this is capable of doing that, I’d appreciate it if you don’t post the tweets in that convo here.

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Anywho – I’ve noticed for quite a while that Ms. A gets harassed an inordinate amount compared to her male counterparts, just like many other women – in politics, talking about politics, or just talking. It’s simply true.

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And I don’t like it.

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The Great Divide

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Reaction to snow day (quotes are verbatim):

Jets Fan: You’ll find me out on the front lawn, naked, curled in a ball and sucking my thumb cuz my kids will be home ALL day.
Giants Fan: There’s no school today! The kids will be home. I think I’ll make cookies!!

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Demographic:

Jets Fan: skew younger, more likely to do actual work for a living
Giants Fan: more likely to push papers

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Reaction to Plax imprisonment:

Giants Fan: He had a GUN?? That’s DANGEROUS. What if there had been KIDS around?? He should ROT in prison FOREVER!!!
Jets Fan: Who did he shoot? His foot?! That’s hilarious. But wait, why is he locked up? Huh? I don’t understand – did the bullet ricochet and kill somebody? No? Wait, so why is he locked up again?

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Epicenter:

Giants Fan: the winding forested roads of Westchester
Jets Fan: Flushing

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Tagline:

Jets Fan: …and the fuckin JETS!!! (-courtesy R. Ryan) alt.: Play like a m[redacted]n’ JET
Giants Fan: It’s so nice out today; ooh look – a flower!

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j/k – luv ya Giants fans

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Do The (4th Qtr?) Mark Sanchez

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perfect holiday gift?
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Is He A She Or She A He? Are There Two Or Are There One? Hold On Kids…Pt.2

IS THIS KID KENOMA ON THE LEFT? OR IS IT THE PERSON ON THE RIGHT?

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Or…..  BOTH?????????

OR IS IT:

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Is He A She Or She A He? Are There Two Or Are There One? Hold On Kids…Pt.1

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IS THIS KID

KENOMA?

 

 

 

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Update: This post has been sanitized for your protection

                                                        

Related Post: Part Two

Oh Oh Telephone Line, Give Pat Frey Some Time

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Received from Pat (in quotes):

11/2:
“Phone call? I find sometimes a phone call can serve to lower tensions… I’m game if you are.”

11/7:
“Doesn’t sound like you’re going to take me up on the phone call… you won’t talk to me on the phone”

…you’re so close but far away I call you up all night and day…

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11/19:
“I’d be happy to talk about any of this on the phone. What’s your number?”

11/19:
“I am happy to discuss such matters on the phone. But if we don’t speak… I will not be removing that comment of Dustin’s” [The whole comment's removal was not requested. -ed]

…if you’d pick up that telephone…

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11/19:
“I frankly think we’re at the point where we will remain suspicious of each other unless and until we have human contact in the form of a phone call.

I am willing to assume that you and i simply have a series of misunderstandings… that are often cured once people speak on the phone.

I will not tape you. …if I do you can …report me to any authorities you wish.”

[NY is a one-party consent state; NY has a precedent to use the laws of the injured's state. Pat is a lawyer. -ed]

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11/23:

“I stand by my offer to speak on the phone… it is, I believe, the only chance for working this out.
If you are not going to take advantage of that offer then please stop emailing me.” [Pat initiated these email communications. -ed]

from Patterico.com:
“If she wants to talk about any of this on the phone, that’s fine…”

ok, so no one’s answering…

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hang it up Pat

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Very Related Posts:

STILL WAITING

Paranoiacs Anonymous

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Related Posts:

That’s Not My Name

Sorry I Cannot Answer

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That’s Not My Name

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If you use quotes/posts from this blog, and you attribute such to a name other than the pseudonyms itsgettingbleeker, qritiq, or the correct commenter handle…

Ur doin it WRONG

(and illegally)

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Do You Want To Take My Picture?

Rumor has it that the good people in the Occupy ranks are buying cameras for other good people.

Remember, you have to have a receipt to return it within thirty days.

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Sorry I Cannot Answer

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trust is like a mirror

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POSTED BY   qritiq

Steve “verngasm” Kineson is back.

verngasmsteve kineston yep I’m in stealth mode things are happening . Have you been getting a lot of rain its totally sucks yard is a forest (10:30 PM 4/28)

@verngasmsteve kineston I guess I’m a wanted man now so off the radar I go if no one hears from me its all right love ya (7:37 PM 7/4)

verngasm   steve kineston verngasm is back now your all in trouble  (8:47 PM 11/17)

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Do You See The Pattern

DRAFT

It seems to me that perpetration of all of the following acts, takes the same type of sociopathic chutzpah (and admittedly, intelligence). If you think about it, the acts described below, are all of a kind:

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-spending months scripting many sockpuppets and, in effect, lying about who you are to people who consider you a friend

-using multiple id’s when commenting on the same thread

-creating different names for a number of twitter accounts. (John and Pat Reid seem to have been named after Pat. No offense to Pat, but most people have not heard of him. (I certainly hadn’t pre-Weinergate.) And of those who have heard of him, how many would have Pat so foremost in their mind to name their sockpuppets after him? If those names are more than a coincidence, it kinda narrows things down.)

-impersonating multiple real people

-telling mistruths in order to discredit the people who helped to expose the fake teens (namely JP and Lee)

-telling mistruths in order to discredit me for the crime of telling the truth

-doxing, trolling

-attempting to discredit GC because the truths she told did not match up with the AW-thought-Nikki-was-16 narrative that had been worked on for months.

-spending a long period of time on the phone lying to the New York Times as well as to Tommy X and Lee

-spending a long period of time lying to FilmLadd

-spending a looong period of time lying to Patterico.com readers via the JR9 chat – (verbosity a common thread. Also, Lee’s caller, some socks, and others around Weinergate have been described as sycophantic.)

-sending threats to bloggers

-releasing and/or publishing goatsred’s and ronbryn’s expunged record (recall that Weprin’s sealed custody case was also published.)

-engaging in the “Alicia Pain” menace-toned convo with Pat

-fabricating a fake California driver’s license and fake student id’s

-fabricating completely fake AW/GC DM’s

-altering the dates of actual DM’s

-fabricating GC-Nikki DM’s

-twitter hack (h/t @ronbryn) (I’m thinking perhaps done by spoofing a cellphone number?)

-making a false complaint to Boston P.D. (if the complaint was real and JG was real, there would have been no reason for JG not to sign that complaint.)  Also, recall that someone made an unwarranted call – calling the police to Ethel’s house, to investigate nonexistent untoward AW tweets.

-more fake spoofed call(s) to police constituting SWAT-ing(s)

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caveats: I understand that anyone involved in the aforementioned likely had help. And I think I probably forgot to add maybe more than a couple of things that would fit with this list of con artist-type activity.

Also, I have to say, it would be very surprising to me if Pat and Lee did not have some light to shine on the above. And I also do find it mysterious that Pat never posted the reasons he believed JR9 and DW were one in (yeah I said “in”) the same. (I do not think early DW was JR9, but I do think that the DW who was interviewed by FilmLadd, was likely JR9. And I’d be curious to know what Pat thinks.)

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It is likely I’ll be updating this post and adding a bit more detail.

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(h/t soundbitten.com)

DRAFT

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Blah Blah Blah

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*Can’t Touch This* Serial Twitter Harasser OxyConservative and #p2 Pals

OxyConservativeOxyConservative

@GregWHoward Instead of binge drinking, why don’t you teach your kid how to be a financially responsible adult? @GomerWHoward @GregWBlowhard

GregWBlowhardPhil Miaz

RT @GregWHoward: @GregWBlowhard You keep saying crap and libtards keep RTing you. So, you’re going to pay dearly. #p2

4 hours agoFavoriteRetweetReply

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On Critical Thinking

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excerpted notes from Critical Thinking Errors:
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Errors that lead to shallow or uncritical decisions instead of careful judgments:

Conformity
Face Saving/Ego
Faulty common sense
Rationalization
Hasty conclusions
Unwarranted assumptions
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Conformity -

Group pressure can be intense.

Conformity can cripple your thinking…

It can cause dependence on others.
It can reduce your sense of responsibility.

GROUP THINK is probably the most severe example of conformity. It is the strong desire to concur in a group decision.
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Face Saving/Ego -

Face saving is “attempting to preserve our image when reality threatens it”.

Face saving is self-protection, ego protection, and sometimes compensation for feelings of inferiority.

EGO is an obstacle to clear thinking.  For instance:
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Wishful thinking
Misinterpretation of perceptions
Rationalization

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Rationalization -

Rationalization is the exact opposite of reaching a logical decision.

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The process for reaching a rational decision is to start with evidence and then move to a conclusion.

Evidence –> Conclusion

With rationalization you start with the conclusion you want, and then you gather evidence to support that conclusion.

Conclusion –> Evidence

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Stereotyping  -

Stereotyping forces us to choose sides.
Stereotyping:

Causes Injustice
Destroys cooperation
Embarrasses people
Triggers fear
Creates suspicion and blame
Victims are degraded
Stereotypers lose touch with reality and their fears grow
Social impulse is curbed

To avoid stereotyping:

Avoid jumping to the conclusion of neat categories.

Review ALL information before coming to a conclusion.

Suspend judgment; put off making conclusions
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A hasty conclusion is a judgment arrived at before sufficient evidence is obtained or looked at.
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Unwarranted assumptions are unexamined conclusions which we take for granted.
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Other Potential Problems:

Scare tactics
Appeal to loyalty
Appeal to pity
Appeal to prejudice
Shifting the burden of proof

 

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Mad Libs

I believe that _____________ has been harassed.  I think she suspects that _____________ has been the one harassing her because ____________ told her that’s who it was.  And I think _____________ also told ______________ that the person who SWAT-ted Pat and _____________ _____________ was also _____________ along with _____________.  However, I don’t believe that _____________ actually believes what he himself has said to be true.  I believe that he must know that it was actually _____________ that had something to do with the _____________s and it wasn’t _____________ at all.  (After all,  _____________ would have no motive.)  So the question is, why would _____________ say that _____________ was responsible when he knows that _____________ isn’t?

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Well, I think it is because _____________ vouched for _____________ to ______________.  And now he realizes how badly he and _____________ were punked by _____________.

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So, he is embarrased, and he doesn’t want _____________ to know how bad he f[REDACTED]ed up.  And _____________ sees _____________ as the weakest person in his field of vision and so that is why _____________ has chosen to target ____________.

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Well, this is my current theory and the only thing that would make any sense I think.

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P.S. I noticed that _____________ is using the @_____________ account to defend Cain.  Is he embarrassed to speak out for Cain under his own name I wonder?

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Sage Is Sage

Lee Stranahan talks to Sage at Occupy Wall Street:

Sage
- Watch more Videos at Vodpod.

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Dirty Laundry and Dirty Socks

Some have way more than others.

 The answers, my friends, are blowing in the wind.

Let’s have a  little fun, why don’t we? What socks are are the dirtiest? The easiest to see right through?

We’ll get into this for the next few posts. We’ll review some oldies but goodies, some up and comers, and some dumber than others.

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“A Dox On You, Officer Pollack”

(The men and women of law enforcement do a unthankable job each and everyday. This post was to show the nonsense they are dealing with in this particular instance. It was not shown to embarrass this officer,the police in general, or to promote the practice known as “doxing”.The video below was simply posted to show how the people actually go about doing this. It is not endorsed nor is it promoting this practice. The debate to take down the video below will be resolved in a day or so. Apologies to anyone who was offended)

Watch the first 1:00 of this video. Some memorable quotes include:

Man: “Officer Alan Pollack, Allan Pollack, Dox Officer Alan Pollack”. “We are Legion. You will not hide. Officer Pollack, you will be found”

“Dox Allan Pollack, Dox Allan Pollack, Dox Allan Pollack”

“Doxing”-What is this phenomenon?

It seems that we hear this term more and more everyday. Some enjoy just saying it, others enjoy (immensely) threatening AND doing it.

Why?

It has taken on steam with the popularity of the group Anonymous and with the uprisings all around the country. It has been used to spread personal information of Law Enforcement Officers,  government officials, and as a weapon to instill fear and harass those  into submission who do not agree with a particular point of view.

Or, as a weapon to ruin someone’s life or reputation.

Here is a general rundown on Doxing: (but I’m sure many who read this know plenty about it already)

NEXT: We go undercover.

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Paranoiacs Anonymous

A lot of accusations have been bandied about. As you may well know, I’ve been looking at post-Weinergate shenanigans and crimes for a while now. And just for the record…

I have not seen one shred of evidence indicating that Neal is guilty of anything (other than getting into a snit for no apparent reason.)

I have not seen one shred of evidence indicating that Ron is guilty of anything (other than calling me every name in the book. (And Pathetico never “denounced” any of it.)) Oh, and reading anything Ron’s written as an actual threat is obviously preposterous (listen up Pathetico.) I’ve certainly never felt threatened by Ron and the many epithets he’s logged that were directed at me.

I have not seen one shred of evidence that @goatsred is guilty of anything. He seems to be under attack by some sockpuppets who seem to have no clue (and no curiosity) as to who the actual players in Weinergate were.

I have not seen one shred of evidence that GC is guilty of anything, despite Patrick Frey’s commenters being incredibly nasty and accusatory toward her. Oh, and by the way, Pathetico never denounced that repulsive behavior. Rather, he seemed to actively encourage it. (I’ve never seen a writer block/ban a source. Can you say “dumbass”?)

And I’ve gotta say that thinking that KidKenoma is some kind of criminal mastermind is um what’s the word? Oh yeah – ridiculous.

Of course Ken and “Dustin” and Pat even tried to point a finger at yours truly, because they know that I know some truths that they don’t want revealed. I think you need to ask yourself why that would be. When I posted a link to new information about Dan Wolfe at Patterico.com (because “Dustin” had requested that I post any new information there), Pathetico deleted the post. Post-haste. Gotta ask yourself why he would do that. His excuse was that I had deleted just one out of MANY of “Dustin”‘s comments.

(I had deleted that one comment of “Dustin”‘s, because it contained false and defamatory statements about GC. I had already let “Dustin” post many comments containing disinformation, and “Dustin” was already fully aware that his many comments were totally disrespectful of this blog’s guidelines. I NEVER violated any of Pathetico’s blog guidelines, although Pat allowed many commenters to post disinformation and allowed some to use more than one handle – against his own rules. So, again, you need to ask yourself – why was I singled out? I was also singled out in that I believe that “qritiq” was the ONLY one on the monster thread that had actual names attributed to their handle/nickname, that were NOT redacted. So again, you need to ask yourself: WHY WOULD JOHN PATRICK FREY SINGLE OUT QRITIQ? FOR WHAT POSSIBLE REASON? And, perhaps even more telling, why would he want to hide new information from his readers? Quite interesting behavior, don’t ya think?)

Pretty sure the only charges I am legitimately guilty of are cupcake over-indulgence and poor grammar. A thousand freakin pardons.

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