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Still.

Posted in blogosphere, censorship, mental, politics, spin with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on May 28, 2012 by Qritiq

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A commenter (coughtroll) at TheCryingWolfe asks of me: “Still?”,
regarding my previous comments:
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I don’t believe you’re [Lee Stranahan] sincere at all throwing Ron’s name in there, because I’ve heard Ron’s voice too. And that’s why I know you’re full of shit on this one.
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I’d bet any amount of money that’s not Ron; would have no prob betting my life on it.
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The only reason I can see for falsely throwing Ron’s name in repeatedly, is to try to take focus away from the actual caller.
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I mean DUH.

sorry if i sounded over-dramatic – I’m just sick of this subterfuge shit.
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So, my answer to this commenter is:
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I WILL SPEAK VERY SLOWLY SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND ME
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THE CALLER’S VOICE IS STILL THE CALLER’S VOICE
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AND
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RON’S VOICE IS STILL RON’S VOICE
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THEREFORE
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RON’S VOICE IS STILL NOT THE CALLER’S VOICE
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I WOULD OF COURSE BE REMISS IF I DIDN’T SAY “DUH” HERE,
BUT SINCE YOU PROBABLY CAN’T HELP YOUR CRIPPLING MENTAL DEFICIENCY,

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I WILL REFRAIN.

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(coughduh)
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Twenty Questions

Posted in blogosphere, censorship, divisiveness, politics, sockypuppets, spin with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on May 25, 2012 by Qritiq

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1. Why won’t Patterico reveal the truth about why he fired Aaron Worthing?

2. Why do some people continue to believe bloggers who pretend to be conservatives and are proven liars?

3. Why do some people continue to call Robert Stacy McCain a racist – is there a shred of evidence to indicate that?

4. Why did Aaron Worthing have to wait until the James O’Keefe emails were subpoenaed before posting his own story about #BrettKimberlin?

5. When you state a true fact – and someone who wants to hide that truth – broadcasts that you “support” someone that you obviously never supported – why does everyone pretend not to notice the liar’s obvious lie? (I previously wrote about this commonly used subterfuge tactic as it applied to Weinergate.)

6. About a day after another blog posted that Ron Brynaert had a “huge” amount of money, Aaron Worthing sent Brynaert a letter demanding 20K cash or he’d sue Brynaert for $66,000,000. Is the attorney that advised Aaron that this action was A-OK, trying to manipulate and use Aaron?

7. On a related note, I keep seeing @AaronWorthing state that @ronbryn is Brett Kimberlin’s “buddy”, “pal”, etc., which is a bold-faced lie. Why is it that people who claim to care about truth, never call Aaron out on it?

8. Since Aaron is known to have lied (see #7), can we trust the other things that he says?

9. Why did Herman Cain delete his facebook posting that was based on Robert Stacy McCain’s tale?

10. Why do some people become enraged when I point out that the timing of the social media anti-#BrettKimberlin campaign coincided with the subpoena of 7-years worth of James O’Keefe emails?

11. Do you think that Lie Stranahan actually believes that his caller, whom he said he believed was a jilted texter  (described as “dumb” by someone she spoke to at length) fabricated a phony California driver’s license (when she lives in Boston) as well as fake student id’s on short notice, told a stack of lies to the New York Times, impersonated at least two different real people, filed a phony police report, punked Tommy Christopher – Mike Stack  and the whole of the #BornFreeCrew, and for months scripted ALL the writings of DW – who was quite knowledgeable regarding nyc political reporting and Queens politics and issues (when “she”‘s “dumb” and from Boston), JR9 and many other socks including thousands of DM’s with GC (sorry if I left some stuff out)?

12. Who told Andrew Breitbart that Pat Frey had been SWAT-ed?

13. Why do some spend so much of their time bothering to argue with sockpuppets who consistently spout outrageous stuff that no-one believes?

14. I heard Andrew Breitbart’s last interview. His concerned and alarmed telling about his associate Pat’s SWAT seemed sincere to me, and he intimated that he (Breitbart) and his family could likely be the next to be terroristically targeted. Did the story about Pat’s SWAT, that Pat did nothing to clarify, contribute to Andrew’s stress level in the days leading up to March 1, 2012?

15. I’m told a judge clearly stated that Aaron had committed an assault. So why would some think there should not be a restraining order (that would serve to protect both parties) against Aaron – isn’t it better to be safe than sorry (I guess in the interim anyways, the ruling judge agreed with me)?

16. Did people Herman Cain trusted feed him disinformation?

17. Why are so many people being mean to @CryingWolfeBlog when it seems that, while he does defend himself against their attacks, he has never done anything to them?

18. Why was @ronbryn targeted from the get-go by those on the left AND on the right?

19. If you were trying to frame someone for a crime, and in doing so, you had to have an accomplice place a phone call during the time you were on the phone with your target, wouldn’t it make common logical sense and make it easier to coordinate the timing of your own call with his, if you told your accomplice to make his call “at midnight”, rather than at say 11:39 or 12:13?

20. How much money do you imagine has been spent all told, so far, on O’Keefe v Kimberlin?

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Consider your answers, as this post will be opened up to comments in the near future.

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Rate Your Pain

Posted in blogosphere, politics, sockypuppets, spin with tags , , on April 26, 2012 by Qritiq

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I would tend to agree with SarahW, but it seems these weigher-inners would not:

(from patterico.com: source link  link  link  link  link  link  link  (btw, this is just a very small sample below; there were many, many, many more))

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I would be scared if I got a threat like that.  –Dustin

I say follow it through … expose this person and get them on Internet threats.  –Anita Busch   She’s absolutely right in this case.  –Dustin

7/15/11: I just am more focused on the Alicia Pain and other criminal activity. I want whoever is behind that to go to prison.  –Dustin

you [GC] called Alicia Pain’s threats “benign” above. You should not offer opinions like that when you don’t know the facts  –Patterico

I hope LE is also looking into Alicia Pain  –DRJ

At a minimum, someone named Alicia Pain threatened me. That much is illegal. I have repeatedly said there is more going on as well.  –Patterico

Alicia Pain claims she contacted you. Is that true? Which means you may need protection.  –az5thdstrct

If you/your family did receive a threat from Alicia Pain, why not contact the authorities? (Assume Patterico would advise) that not to succumb to the threat and best to protect family is to contact authorities to investigate.  –az5thdstrct

I received an e-mail threat that night from “Alicia Pain” threatening my family if I looked into the activities of Gennette and Weiner any further.  –Patterico

I spoke today to detectives from two jurisdictions.  –Patterico

My main goal in getting involved has been to make sure all agencies are talking to each other. Be assured that I am making efforts to ensure that happens.  –Patterico

I will not discuss which jurisdictions.  –Patterico

This person, assuming it’s just one person, is dangerous. Everyone whose real name is known out there should be aware of their surroundings, make sure someone knows where they are and what they are doing, etc.  –Dustin

i knew all about that one, and told him … call the police on them…  –Aaron Worthing

the authorities are looking into who sent these threats, and they are going catch that person.  –Dustin

How does that help me catch the people menacing my family?  –Patterico

we consider this important.  –Patterico

I simply wish we could find the people that did the threats, get that taken care of- and then take the time to unravel the mystery. Someone/s needs to be in jail…asap.  –ppk_pixie

there are some extremely aggressive bad guys threatening people … and even taking their threats to the next level where law enforcement knows it has to stop them.  –Dustin

If [qritiq’s] going to continue to …  snark at real threats, then she is not welcome.  –Patterico

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but despite all the very grimm rhetoric, some thought:

The threat emails are incredibly lame, its like if they created CSI:Fargo and did hour long episodes on shoplifting.  –milowent

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Exception-al Tweet

Posted in bitching, blogosphere, divisiveness, Doh!, spin, tacky on April 1, 2012 by Qritiq

I take exception(s) with this tweet:

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because:
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1. There’s a lot of things you could call Ron;  “idiot” prolly not one of them. And I don’t believe for a second that the author of this tweet honestly thinks Ron an idiot.
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2. Ron “makes too many mistakes”? I’d agree if you’d said this in the summer. Now – hmmm – to me he seems to be on target a lot, though I will say I think he tends to make a totally correct analysis of a situation, but then take it a step or two too far, imo.
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3. A “traitor” to what exactly? You? Your political beliefs? How can an editor be a “traitor” to a political movement or ideology?
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4. On “zero ethics” – I found out a couple of things recently that make me dispute this. I also have reason to believe that at least some of Ron’s former detractors would also dispute it.
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5. Ron has “no cause”. Uhh – wouldn’t he be a bad journo/reporter/editor/etc,  if he did promote a cause?
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#tweetFAIL – no foolin’.
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The Wendy Whiner Of Weinergate

Posted in audio, crime, politics, sockypuppets, spin with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on October 1, 2011 by Qritiq

From the 6/18/11 Lee Stranahan Blog Talk Radio Show (coincidentally ONE DAY after the Jennifer Preston NYT piece re fake Weinergate twitter teens)  – Caller @AG_Conservative aka Allen Ginzburg, known to be from the greater Detroit area, sounding somewhat hysterical:

From the 6/22/11  Lee Stranahan Blog Talk Radio Show [clip is edited] – Caller @razor419, known to be from the greater Detroit area, sounding somewhat hysterical:

[Update: Note – @Liberty_Chick sez these callers pronounce their vowels differently, and I would say that razor does sound older and more self-assured. Both callers oddly and breathlessly spout disinformation in a high-strung sing-song-y cadence. (Though it’s possible AG is walking a dog.) And both calls make me laugh about the same amount.]

(As Lee has pointed out to us, it is a simple matter to make your voice sound higher or deeper on the phone.)

Of course a lot of people around Weinergate like to use more than one handle, as we see here: http://wireupdate.com/joereport/news/my-own-email-interactions-with-patriotusa76-aka-dan-wolfe/#comment-217184911

[Update: the above link appears to have been scrubbed.  Below is a cap of the commenter using two id’s on the same post; what I was referring to above. Wonder why it got scrubbed – seems to be a pattern. (Click on the image to see it more clearly.)]

Ken is Koam

And here’s a REALLY funny coincidence –

On Lee’s 6/22/11 show, our friend Ken Danieli called in as “@wittier” from his 914 area code, immediately after @razor419.

Hmm. 914? 419?

When we scroll down a bit on this link , we see that Ken had a RAZR phone and we know his area code is 914.

RAZR914? razor419? Isn’t that FUNNY?!

When I pointed this out to @razor419, he stopped talking to me, even though he seemed to have PLENTY to say to me before. As a matter of fact, he stopped tweeting all-together. Gee, I wonder why?????

Golly, just one of the many mysteries of the post-Weinergate era I guess.

(h/t soundbitten.com)

(h/t Lucy)

Ad Campaign

Posted in crime, spin with tags , , , , on August 5, 2011 by Qritiq

As a former teacher of various ages of children, and former girl myself, I know what the following terms mean:

(these are approximations)

little girl: 3-6 years old
young girl: 7-10 years old
girl: 11-14 years old
older girl: 15-16 years old

I think when I was living a few states away from my parents and in college at 17, I would have told you to go %$&# yourself if you’d called me a “young girl.”

A big part of the social media operation to discredit Anthony Weiner, is to try to instill in the public’s mind, the phrase “Weiner and young girls”. It is a marketing campaign, and the phrase “young girls” is by no means random. The phrase was chosen very carefully as a misstatement that people might not even notice, but that would evoke a reflexive disgust toward Anthony Weiner if and when his name became associated with this phrase. The phrase appears no less than 13 times in an interview with the (still anonymous) person who said he saw the “underwear” picture tweeted from the RepWeiner twitter account.   Do you think anyone actually believes that Anthony Weiner was sending underwear shots from his Blackberry to 7-10-year-olds?

The goal of the operation was NOT RepWeiner’s resignation. That is why, even after “Weinergate”, this social media disinformation campaign is ongoing.  Even though RepWeiner has resigned, he is still eminently electable in New York, as polls have borne out. He will be even more electable one year from now.

When I type:  Weiner “young girls”  into google, I get “About 2,700,000 results”. And when I type Weiner “young girl”, I get back “About 2,980,000 results”.

Below is a sampling from just one short blog page. I include commenters as well as the Breitbart-associated blogger, because it is likely that those involved in the operation are frequent commenters on internet blogs and forums, as well as on twitter. Commenting under multiple nicknames and I.D.’s is an important way for social media propagandists to disseminate mistruths. You may notice that a number of “commenters” discussing “Weiner” and “young girls” on certain blogs, write better than the average person. We know that at least one person involved in this operation is a professional marketer.

Patterico: “the involvement of young girls in this story”

Patterico commenter: “the evidence we have about the young girl”

“I have no trouble drawing inferences from the young girl’s own words based on a solitary proven recitation of Weiner’s rather unique fantasy.” 

Patterico commenter: “enticed one of these young girls to a motel”

Patterico commenter: “he is a virtual fornicator— with young girls”

PROPAGANDA

Bold-faced

Posted in spin with tags on August 4, 2011 by Qritiq

From: Patterico.com

It’s a key fact that Nikki talked to GC for many weeks, in thousands of messages, and Nikki never brought up Weiner. You have to read Patterico to know that, thanks to Gennette, and Patterico, and no thanks to the Grey Lady & Mrs. P.

Comment by koam @wittier — 8/4/2011 @ 8:47 am

koam is spinning, spinning, spinning here and he knows it. It’s been said again and again that Nikki brought up the name of Anthony Weiner to Gennette, FIRST. This is a middle-aged experienced marketing executive twisting the words and actions of a 22-year-old college student. (I believe he has also attempted again and again to discredit her and repeatedly twist her words, from what I’ve read in his comments at Patterico.com.)

Gotta ask yourself: Why is koam trying so desperately to rewrite history? What’s in it for him?

P.S. Wow, haha – it’s hard to keep up with koam’s spinning – just saw this little item:

Which leads to this: if her intern is really working in an alliance with Neal & Kimberlin, as Patterico says, (see alleged DMs and emails from her to the intern (grain of salt, etc.)…and her public tweets to him) what does that say about NYT & the types of people it chooses to work with?

Could he actually be implying here that Ron was a social media intern at The New York Times?? AHAHAHAHAHA.

And actually, koam, if you really didn’t know, reporters for every outlet listen to information from all kinds of sources. For example, if they never talked to criminals, they would not have much to report about crime. I mean – DUH.