“SECRET EVIDENCE”

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Patrick Frey, an L.A. Deputy District Attorney, aka the blogger and James O’Keefe supporter Patterico, posted a document produced by one Kent Gibson, who also works with the L.A. courts (presumably an acquaintance, colleague, or friend of Frey’s.) Gibson describes himself as a “Certified Audio & Video Forensic Examiner”.

Based on a test that Gibson refers to as “the gold standard” of voice identification, Gibson determined that:

“Frey Swat [911 tape of caller that perpetrated a crime] and Brynaert Known [a recording from an interview show of Ron Brynaert, former Executive Editor of a political website] cannot be shown to be the same speaker”.

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There were a lot of other words in this document about results of methods that Gibson indicates are not nearly as  reliable or accurate (if at all) as the test Gibson says is the “gold standard”, which he used to conclude the statement above.  There were also lots of words included in the document, which described opinion rather than statements of fact.)

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oh, and i’d like to ask y’all a personal question:

Suppose you log on, and you see that a Deputy District Attorney asked someone (presumably a friend of his) described as a “Certified Audio & Video Forensic Examiner” for the courts, to compare a sample of your voice (found on the internet) to a criminal’s, (in order to try to come up with some basis, that sounds official, to make people think that you ARE the criminal), and this D.A. publishes the resultant document, that his friend wrote up, on his blog.

You see that this posted document says your voice was used in the comparison, because you are “suspected of being the Swat caller re: Frey”. And the “Certified Audio & Video Forensic Examiner” says his opinion is that you are a criminal based on a “totality” of stuff (though we’re not privy to know exactly what that stuff may be.)  He writes this opinion even though the results of the test, that he himself says is the gold standard of testing, indicated that you “cannot be shown to be” the criminal.

The D.A.’s  readers see this document; some of them blog about it, tweet it, and get more people to do the same…, and so on, and so on. And as a result, a lot of your former colleagues, people you correspond with online, friends and acquaintances, and anyone else who happens to search on your name, can see that you are being examined by Los Angeles officials because you are “suspected of being” a criminal.  (And needless to say, you’re not a criminal, you’ve done nothing at all wrong – and you’ve never been convicted of a crime.)

So how would you feel about that?

And what would you think the proper remedy would be?

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38 Responses to ““SECRET EVIDENCE””

  1. This doesn’t add up.

    [Redacted].

    First he’s on ultra-liberal [Redacted], but he’s writing about drones and other military systems.

    Then he pops up in [Redacted] with [Redacted]:

    Infragard founding member

    Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association participant

    https://www.examiner.com/article/big-names-help-run-project-vigilant

    Chet Uber, Mark Rasch, Ira Winkler – all Jewish. That matters later.

    Uber and Adrian Lamo catch Bradley Manning. Google this Lamo guy if you don’t already know, he’s the “homeless hacker”. Sound like anyone else we know? [Redacted] was “homeless” and wrote about it extensively in [Redacted]. Or was he just establishing a back story, infiltrating [Redacted].

    [Redacted] publicly ‘quits’, writes about [Redacted] as if he has died, but it’s done in a weird way and on a liberal blog he has never used before, and he never uses it ([Redacted]) again.

    He starts a policy news system that is still running today and apparently has a thousand [Redacted] staffers using it. It’s called [Redacted] and you can just go sign up for it.

    Next he apparently writes about the email from the Anonymous break in at HBGary. This doesn’t come out until later.

    Weinergate. He’s right in the middle of it. I don’t understand what happened here, except that everyone that gets near him gets chewed up pretty quickly.

    He doesn’t work for [Redacted], [Redacted], Media Matters, or anywhere else that people have checked, but he gets new equipment and he is always traveling between [Redacted], [Redacted], and maybe [Redacted].

    As soon as Occupy [Redacted] Street starts [Redacted] is there. He was in [Redacted] repeatedly, he never published photos of himself in [Redacted], but he was there. Remember he lived in [Redacted] in 2008. There are lots of photos of the western part of the state and several visits to [Redacted].

    His guys catch Bradley Manning. But now he’s an Anonymous kingpin? How does THAT happen? Was he an Anonymous plant in [Redacted]? Is he a [Redacted] plant in Anonymous? Or has he always been playing both groups for some other purpose?

    [Redacted] Unmasked server? It’s in Iceland. Who else is in Iceland? Birgitta Jonsdottir, the member of parliament who was allegedly involved in Cablegate. She’s tight with Julian Assange. The other guy accused in Cablegate is David House. From Boston. Anonymous Project Chanology leader Gregg Housh? South Boston.

    It doesn’t get noticed as much, but I think it’s key: he wrote for Cutting Edge News. He met editor Edwin Black at the Turning [Redacted] Into [Redacted] conference in [Redacted] in 2008, either right before he presented at the [Redacted] Network conference in Minneapolis (he’s a scientist, too? They let him speak in front of a room of 200 Ph.D.s). Both of these events are anti-[Redacted].

    The [Redacted] conference is interesting. Organizers? Gal Luft and Anne Korin (Israeli) and behind the scenes R. James Woolsey. Yes, dig far enough and you find pictures of this guy with the former CIA director.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/222256/turning-oil-salt/r-james-woolsey

    Comes and goes as he pleases. Gets into EVERYTHING and NEVER gets a mark on him. Likes weapons systems, but wants to get oil out of transportation. Who COULD this be?

    Hello, Unit 8200

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_8200

    I didn’t put it all together until I started reading this book. Pay particular attention to the Israeli wiretapping companies.

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Shadow-Factory-Ultra-Secret-Eavesdropping/dp/0385521324

    Final tidbit. Kimberlins’ wife is Russian. And her father is former KGB.

    • J. Edgar Says:

      I glazed over at the Jewish conspiracy. Does it really always have to be ‘the Jews’ all the damn time?

      As for Ron: Sue that fat bastard. He has done this to you under color of the LA DA’s office (despite his pretensions to the opposite). If you can, get an injunction or restraining order against him to stop him from further scapegoating you and putting you in fear.

      Look on the bright side, if they get their federal inquiry Patrick Frey will have a lot of ‘splaining to do in front of smart federal investigators who see through shit like this. Why would he protect the real Swatter? Is turning his minions and their dupes against Ron so important that he gave the Swatter an exit strategy? Vendetta, much?

      Also, if Kimberlin’s father in law is ex-KGB, how did Kimberlin survive after the first time he was charged with [edited]?

    • J. Edgar Says:

      “Weinergate. He’s right in the middle of it. I don’t understand what happened here, except that everyone that gets near him gets chewed up pretty quickly.”

      Nice. You don’t know what happened during Weinergate (hint: Two swattings in one week) but… hey… [redacted]! Why not!

      Dude. Your agenda’s showing.

  2. commonsense Says:

    If I were Ron, I would file a bar complaint against Frey. I would also file a complaint with the DAs office and the state. I would also sue Frey for defamation. Since when can a DA conduct a trial on a blog, providing no actual evidence, in order to convict someone of a crime using the power of his office? I would have emailed this suggestion, but he would probably attack me or claim I part of some conspiracy. He is his own worst enemy.

  3. (I’d thought obviously) if a comment contains disinformation, misinfomatiom, and a veiled threat against me, I will remove it.

  4. J. Edgar Says:

    I hope Frey doesn’t employ these tactics in court.

  5. Horrors! Creepy, allegedly uber-pervy “YidwithLid” (Jeff Dunetz & Gridney?) was outed as allegedly being…. Just google him with ‘hookers’.

  6. Jeff Reynolds Says:

    Seth Allen is lying. Again.

    Seth Allen (@Prepostericity):
    6/8/12 12:21 AM
    @ProudoftheUSA Sure yes, I don’t have asperger’s so I am sorry if I hurt anyone’s feelings.

    (Please – someone warn this nice lady that he’s working her.)

    And again… 

    Seth Allen (@Prepostericity):
    6/8/12 6:59 PM
    @janmoore369 My “death threat” was a badly worded joke cause it wouldn’t have been justice to serve life for ending his. #BrettKimberlin

    Lemme guess. That’s a joke too?

  7. Hypoallergenic Says:

    Dang. Dusty seems a little too obsessed with trying to frame Ron tonight by twisting his words. He obviously must get off on having people threaten and deride Rоn, and doesn’t he love to stir it up. Dusty boy, you should be ashamed of yourself, wallowing in your personal ‘me too’ sense of victimhood while looking to victimize people you dislikes. Tsk tsk tsk, such dishonesty.

    Hey Rоn, don’t take his bait.

  8. You know how Aaron says he can’t tweet anything even slightly related to Brett Kimberlim because of an unconstitutional, overbroad court order, yet he’s never stopped shit-talking Ron?

    It’s because Aaron doesn’t really believe Ron and Kimberlin are connected.

    If Aaron or his attorneys really believed Ron had anything to do with Brett Kimberlin, Aaron would have had to avoid engaging Ron at all costs on swatting and other things, lest sue-happy Brett Kimberlin claims Aaron is targeting him (BK) by abusing the guy Aaron thinks is in cahoots with him, in an attempt to get around the intent of the order and further harass Brett.

    oopsie.

    So I guess Aaron is just abusing Ron for fun, right?

    • Yup – someone else pointed that out to me a few days ago.

      Tho I’d bet Aaron has been instructed to harass, defame, and libel Ron. And the person giving those instructions obviously doesn’t give a shit about what happens to Aaron, so long as *they* get their payday.

  9. Seth Allen (@Prepostericity):
    6/11/12 10:40 PM
    @Liberty_Chick Tme 4 Stack 2 rejoin loving fam @Patterico @AaronWorthing @Stranahan @rsmccain rest of us @TeamThemisv2. #BrettKimberlin

    Skin. Crawling.

    Make it stop.

    (Loving family? WTF)

  10. […] the case of Mike Stack at Cryingwolfeblog, and re-posted on the Qritiq blog, the same situation happened on or about the same time frame that happened to Frey, which was last […]

  11. Not the flabby one Says:

    Hey Ron. Ignore the trolls, especially the pompous weird egomaniac who’s channeling the flabby one and the rageaholic.

  12. Trollboy is better than ye Says:

    http://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2011/03/06/something-were-all-guilty-of/

    Read all the comments. Here’s a taste:

     Slim on March 13, 2011 at 06:08 said:
    @Socrates/Seth Allen

    So you are going to claim in court that you are autistic, and that because of this autism, you will claim you have special issues that make it OK for a person of your caliber/disease/mental problem to stalk others, harass them, defame then, libel them, and a host of other issues for the last 10 years online that you have committed all because of your new claim of autism correct?

    Neato Soc, neato.. I don’t know if this claim will stand up, but, if you are on medication and have a history of mental illness (which many believe you do) then I guess the judge will probably have to buy your claims. But you will have to claim it, and as you are now doing here, I guess this is the start of you defending yourself on those charges lol.

    Only don’t tell Patterico.com that, as they will lose respect for you. You have them all fooled you know, you have them believing you are this left wing guy who hangs out on extremist right wing forums begging for money to defend your stalking and abuse of the left wing you claim you are a part of. But, I can see where your claimed mental issues could be caused by an Autistic personality. Yes, I could see that. Good defense too…

  13. note for noobs:

    Seth has said he does not suffer from any condition or disability whatsoever.

    Someone who is not a doctor, but who knows a great deal about Aspberger’s, felt that she recognized some of the traits in Seth.

  14. “they started tweeting links to Internet slanders, originally made about me over seven years ago. These lies included charges about me being a sexual predator, using hookers, etc.”

    Dunetz keeps hoping if he says this enough it’ll become truth. So, Jeff thinks even NYPD is slandering him?

  15. “But at worst, he might have been – might have become over the last several years – a manipulator with a hero complex, bent on inflating his own self-importance in the comfortable guise of moral superiority.”

    http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2009-01-23/729400/

  16. Say hello to Paul Lemmen.

    http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=138184

    “Now to the reason why I saw fit to go ahead and write this all up at the behest of some terribly distraught bloggers.  Lemmen appears to be setting up a very big and very audacious escalation.  Lemmen is spinning a yarn that people are photographing him and that he is being threatened in association with his writing about Brett Kimberlin and the SWATting terrorism story.  The fear that many people have is that Lemmen is going to claim or stage a SWATting event or some other dangerous escalation (perhaps arson), paint himself as a victim, perhaps then start begging for money, be exposed as a liar who SWATted himself or was otherwise responsible for whatever escalation event he has in mind, and then poison the well of public opinion and make impossible the gaining of any traction on the issue.  Beyond that, he will hand the leftist-terrorist movement a massive propaganda coup.  Look!  This crazy conservative wingnut SWATted himself!  They’re all a bunch of liars and con-artists!

    As we have seen, Lemmen has a history of concocting wild victimization stories….  Lemmen’s act of inserting himself into the SWATting story is fully congruent with his past history of escalating and increasing the audacity of his cons while trying to cast himself as a victim.”

  17. http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=138184

    “Now to the reason why I saw fit to go ahead and write this all up at the behest of some terribly distraught bloggers.  Lemmen appears to be setting up a very big and very audacious escalation.  Lemmen is spinning a yarn that people are photographing him and that he is being threatened in association with his writing about Brett Kimberlin and the SWATting terrorism story.  The fear that many people have is that Lemmen is going to claim or stage a SWATting event or some other dangerous escalation (perhaps arson), paint himself as a victim, perhaps then start begging for money, be exposed as a liar who SWATted himself or was otherwise responsible for whatever escalation event he has in mind, and then poison the well of public opinion and make impossible the gaining of any traction on the issue.  Beyond that, he will hand the leftist-terrorist movement a massive propaganda coup.  Look!  This crazy conservative wingnut SWATted himself!  They’re all a bunch of liars and con-artists!

    As we have seen, Lemmen has a history of concocting wild victimization stories….  Lemmen’s act of inserting himself into the SWATting story is fully congruent with his past history of escalating and increasing the audacity of his cons while trying to cast himself as a victim.”

  18. Superman Says:

    Brandon Darby (@brandondarby):
    6/19/12 5:13 PM
    Yes, far Leftists. I get paid to monitor and expose you. Deal with it.

    Brandon Darby (@brandondarby):
    6/19/12 5:15 PM
    Yes, far Leftists. I interact with about 30 different law enforcement agencies a week — about you. Deal with it.

     

    {jealous}

  19. In @dmatthewstewart’s email to @Patterico & @Liberty_Chick, Douglas thought Darrah Ford was Joanne Cachapero.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/97366329/Pick-your-favorite-lying-wackadoo-Patterico-vs-Doug-Matthew-Stewart

    Joanne Cachapero is the Communications/Membership Director at the Free Speech Coalition @FSCArmy. Darrah spoke out against the industry unlike Joanne who defends it. Where did Joanne’s name come from? It’s also been rumored that Joanne is the girlfriend or ex-girlfriend of Michael Whiteacre. Whiteacre and Darrah hate each other judging by her Twitter timeline. Where did Joanne’s name come from?

    Did someone from the porn industry give him Joanne’s name? If so, who was it? Darrah isn’t around. The only other two linked to porn are @Stranahan and @cryingwolfeblog.

    Or were Team Breitbart already targeting @FSCArmy like they do with so many other organizations? Are there any connections between Andrew Breitbart and @FSCArmy? That would explain why @Liberty_Chick was so friendly towards Sean Tompkins and Michael Whiteacre. She was trying to get information out of them about Joanne Cachapero and Darrah Ford.

    Douglas approached Darrah after Weinergate began sometime in June 2011. One month later, @PeterPavel1 (now deleted) started tweeting that Darrah’s real initials are JC. Peter’s new account is @PavelLeroux. Notice the blog link on his bio leads back to an anti-Barrett Brown blog @BarrettBrownLOL. @PavelLeroux and @Liberty_Chick are both credited on that blog.

    On October 28, Douglas tweeted to @OccupyRebellion calling her Jo because he assumes she/he/it is Darrah.

    Douglas approached Darrah on June 2011. One month later, @PeterPavel1 started referring to Darrah as JC. Three months later, Douglas started referring to @OccupyRebellion as Jo. JC and Jo both refer to Joanne Cachapero. Are Douglas and Peter Pavel the same person?

    Where did Douglas get Joanne’s name from one month after he first started tweeting to Darrah back on June 2011? Why were Team Breitbart already targeting Joanne Cachapero and @FSCArmy?

  20. Find the factual errors (and omissions) in this announcement. There are a lot.  Hint: Lee Stranahan is credited with providing some of the information.

    http://rightsolutions.org/projects/bloggersdefenseteam/

  21. Aaron Worthing’s war of words last night with @BreitbartUnmask proves one thing: regardless of accusations, he doesn’t think Brett Kimberlin is behind that account.

  22. Possessed of Conscious Says:

    (@TonyforNYSenate):
    7/15/12 5:19 PM
    Is Anthony Weiner serious? Does this man possess a conscious?? #OHMYNERVES!!! Really, give us a break and go away!!! http://t.co/yMJCN2sh

    Agree or not, #OHMYNERVES has to trend.

  23. Lee Stranahan (@Stranahan):
    7/17/12 8:06 PM
    @MissMarple2 I was Andrew’ protege and he’s the reason I’m a conservative. That’s very clear and on the record. I’ll bring him up.

    Andrew’s protege? For realz?

  24. Big Brains in the South Plains Says:

    Looks like Dustin got a new sock.

    @illuminateye fired up after Dustin’s tweets about his buddy Noodlespoon going dark tonite.

    Hmmm.

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